Comments on: Michael Moore: People Still Have the Power http://grittv.org/2011/03/01/michael-moore-people-still-have-the-power/ Cultivating a Better Conversation Sat, 14 May 2011 01:31:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: How I Got to Madison, Wisconsin …a letter from Michael Moore | Reimanova http://grittv.org/2011/03/01/michael-moore-people-still-have-the-power/comment-page-1/#comment-23472 How I Got to Madison, Wisconsin …a letter from Michael Moore | Reimanova Sun, 01 May 2011 22:57:59 +0000 http://grittv.org/?p=13585#comment-23472 [...] were referring to comments I had made earlier in the week on a small cable show called GRITtv (Part 1 and Part 2). I honestly didn’t know this was going to air that night (I had been asked to [...] [...] were referring to comments I had made earlier in the week on a small cable show called GRITtv (Part 1 and Part 2). I honestly didn’t know this was going to air that night (I had been asked to [...]

]]> By: The Locust Fork News-Journal » Blog Archive » Michael Moore Goes to Madison, Wisconsin http://grittv.org/2011/03/01/michael-moore-people-still-have-the-power/comment-page-1/#comment-23319 The Locust Fork News-Journal » Blog Archive » Michael Moore Goes to Madison, Wisconsin Tue, 08 Mar 2011 04:46:09 +0000 http://grittv.org/?p=13585#comment-23319 [...] were referring to comments I had made earlier in the week on a small cable show called GRITtv (Part 1 and Part [...] [...] were referring to comments I had made earlier in the week on a small cable show called GRITtv (Part 1 and Part [...]

]]> By: Michael Moore Declares War on America’s Uber-Class: ‘America is Not Broke’ – Thompson on Hollywood | Funnel the Knowledge http://grittv.org/2011/03/01/michael-moore-people-still-have-the-power/comment-page-1/#comment-23318 Michael Moore Declares War on America’s Uber-Class: ‘America is Not Broke’ – Thompson on Hollywood | Funnel the Knowledge Tue, 08 Mar 2011 01:59:14 +0000 http://grittv.org/?p=13585#comment-23318 [...] were referring to comments I had made earlier in the week on a small cable show called GRITtv (Part 1 and Part 2). I honestly didn’t know this was going to air that night (I had been asked to stop by [...] [...] were referring to comments I had made earlier in the week on a small cable show called GRITtv (Part 1 and Part 2). I honestly didn’t know this was going to air that night (I had been asked to stop by [...]

]]> By: MichaelMoore « Another World is Possible http://grittv.org/2011/03/01/michael-moore-people-still-have-the-power/comment-page-1/#comment-23311 MichaelMoore « Another World is Possible Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:29:39 +0000 http://grittv.org/?p=13585#comment-23311 [...] They were referring to comments I had made earlier in the week on a small cable show called GRITtv (Part 1 and Part 2). I honestly didn’t know this was going to air that night (I had been asked to [...] [...] They were referring to comments I had made earlier in the week on a small cable show called GRITtv (Part 1 and Part 2). I honestly didn’t know this was going to air that night (I had been asked to [...]

]]> By: Michael Moore: How I Got to Madison, Wisconsin http://grittv.org/2011/03/01/michael-moore-people-still-have-the-power/comment-page-1/#comment-23306 Michael Moore: How I Got to Madison, Wisconsin Mon, 07 Mar 2011 06:32:13 +0000 http://grittv.org/?p=13585#comment-23306 [...] were referring to comments I had made earlier in the week on a small cable show called GRITtv (Part 1 and Part 2). I honestly didn’t know this was going to air that night (I had been asked to [...] [...] were referring to comments I had made earlier in the week on a small cable show called GRITtv (Part 1 and Part 2). I honestly didn’t know this was going to air that night (I had been asked to [...]

]]> By: SusanT136 http://grittv.org/2011/03/01/michael-moore-people-still-have-the-power/comment-page-1/#comment-23295 SusanT136 Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:44:57 +0000 http://grittv.org/?p=13585#comment-23295 Yes please, matman, let's do get our facts straight. So what if the nurses were from out of state branches of a nurses union? They were there to support their sister union in Wisconsin. Source please for your "fact" that most of the protesters are from out of state? The Republicans complain that teachers in Wisconsin are not going to work en masse. So which is it? Local teachers are staging a sickout, (supported by LOCAL firefighters and police unions) OR most of the protesters are from out of state? Poll after poll shows that Wisconsinites (yes, that would be LOCAL people) support the unions OVER Walker and the Republicans so maybe they're showing up? Yes the traffic controllers (PATCO) strike was an illegal strike and was a very bad idea. However, Reagan had made promises to PATCO - in writing in a letter - while on the campaign trail, then stabbed them in the back after they endorsed and helped elect him. Specifically, he promised to "take whatever steps are necessary to provide our air-traffic controllers with the most modern equipment available and to adjust staff levels and work days so that they are commensurate with achieving a maximum degree of public safety." He fulfilled none of his promises. See here http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id296.htm and http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/ I love how Reagan supports the law on this issue, but had no problem with his own illegal activities - including arms sales to Iran for hostages, and funneling money to the Nicaraguan Contras who ran drugs and committed human rights atrocities. Yes please, matman, let’s do get our facts straight.

So what if the nurses were from out of state branches of a nurses union? They were there to support their sister union in Wisconsin. Source please for your “fact” that most of the protesters are from out of state? The Republicans complain that teachers in Wisconsin are not going to work en masse. So which is it? Local teachers are staging a sickout, (supported by LOCAL firefighters and police unions) OR most of the protesters are from out of state? Poll after poll shows that Wisconsinites (yes, that would be LOCAL people) support the unions OVER Walker and the Republicans so maybe they’re showing up?

Yes the traffic controllers (PATCO) strike was an illegal strike and was a very bad idea. However, Reagan had made promises to PATCO – in writing in a letter – while on the campaign trail, then stabbed them in the back after they endorsed and helped elect him. Specifically, he promised to “take whatever steps are necessary to provide our air-traffic controllers with the most modern equipment available and to adjust staff levels and work days so that they are commensurate with achieving a maximum degree of public safety.” He fulfilled none of his promises. See here http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id296.htm and http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/

I love how Reagan supports the law on this issue, but had no problem with his own illegal activities – including arms sales to Iran for hostages, and funneling money to the Nicaraguan Contras who ran drugs and committed human rights atrocities.

]]> By: matman13 http://grittv.org/2011/03/01/michael-moore-people-still-have-the-power/comment-page-1/#comment-23286 matman13 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 03:49:41 +0000 http://grittv.org/?p=13585#comment-23286 Let's get our facts straight. The two nurses at the 4:12 mark were both from out of state and not from Wisconsin. So I will agree with Michael that the media is not accurately portraying what is going on in Madison since all of the pictures and video suggest that only Wisconsinites are protesting. In fact, many of the protesters are from out of state, which is fine...providing it is states as such...which it isn't. Next, at the 5:57 mark, Michael blames Ronald Reagan for beginning the war on unions by firing the air traffic controllers. If Michael would bother to check his facts, the PATCO members were striking illegally. Reagan gave them every opportunity to end their strike and return to work. Those that didn't were fired. If Michael wants to declare this a war on unions, fine by me. The fact remains that Reagan was enforcing the law. Let’s get our facts straight.

The two nurses at the 4:12 mark were both from out of state and not from Wisconsin. So I will agree with Michael that the media is not accurately portraying what is going on in Madison since all of the pictures and video suggest that only Wisconsinites are protesting. In fact, many of the protesters are from out of state, which is fine…providing it is states as such…which it isn’t.

Next, at the 5:57 mark, Michael blames Ronald Reagan for beginning the war on unions by firing the air traffic controllers. If Michael would bother to check his facts, the PATCO members were striking illegally. Reagan gave them every opportunity to end their strike and return to work. Those that didn’t were fired. If Michael wants to declare this a war on unions, fine by me. The fact remains that Reagan was enforcing the law.

]]> By: planckbrandt http://grittv.org/2011/03/01/michael-moore-people-still-have-the-power/comment-page-1/#comment-23277 planckbrandt Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:53:47 +0000 http://grittv.org/?p=13585#comment-23277 The Dems can't move cause of campaign finance. Campaign finance rulings have to be challenged in court because of the unequal protection of property rights in which they result. They were put there in the 1970s to combat the Union's ability to raise money for Dems which Republican business owners did not have. They saw all the progressive legislation of the 1960s-70s as impinging on their property rights, and they were able to make that case in Court. They got "money as speech" on the same basis. That logic is completely overturned now since Unions are 7% of the population now, and the Top 2% have all the political power. It is even more concentrated than that, with just a few like Kochs driving this reactionary 30 yrs. Many many wealthy people benefit, but they really want balance and sustainability here. They need to get behind the rights kinds of court cases to reverse the precedence that allows this unequal protection of property rights that benefits only really 1% at the expense of everybody else's property. What is going to happen to these poor people? What happened in Germany? They want to drive people further and further to the reactionary right-wing, and gun violence on the streets here will help them dismantle the society here. The Dems can’t move cause of campaign finance. Campaign finance rulings have to be challenged in court because of the unequal protection of property rights in which they result. They were put there in the 1970s to combat the Union’s ability to raise money for Dems which Republican business owners did not have. They saw all the progressive legislation of the 1960s-70s as impinging on their property rights, and they were able to make that case in Court. They got “money as speech” on the same basis. That logic is completely overturned now since Unions are 7% of the population now, and the Top 2% have all the political power. It is even more concentrated than that, with just a few like Kochs driving this reactionary 30 yrs. Many many wealthy people benefit, but they really want balance and sustainability here. They need to get behind the rights kinds of court cases to reverse the precedence that allows this unequal protection of property rights that benefits only really 1% at the expense of everybody else’s property.

What is going to happen to these poor people? What happened in Germany? They want to drive people further and further to the reactionary right-wing, and gun violence on the streets here will help them dismantle the society here.

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